once they depend on the benefits of government you have half of the country depends on it but a lot are deserving they already paid in. but income tax, you have a situation it is finished for the party, we'll get taxes you don't pay. they are not going to vote for republicans, that is one of the long-term endemic problems of the republican party, the republican parties, my old boss ronald reagan, and george w. bush contributed to. neil: thank you, sir, pat, always a pleasure. >> always. thank you very much, neil. neil: all right, well i have a filing this might come up as a debate next week it could be a game changer that maybe media is wrong page. we are out in denver for the opening salvo, what will be for debate that kicks in denver could we're there 8:00 p.m. eastern time through midnight, unlike a lot of other business networks that say, yeah it is a big election, be there or be square, we're there. you know, until we're not. don't be late. >> meanwhile, the guy who said that president obama push to make taxes high, might have hit a new low, did the president say rich guys who poin